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Sounds~Write training report available to view

Post by Susan Godsland » Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:22 pm

An Evaluation of Sounds-Write training by the DfE
What follows is a report, unedited and unabridged, written by the DfE’s Gordon
Askew, after a drop-in visit to a day of one of our training courses, on 12th January
2012.

We believe that this gives a good indication of just how well Sounds-Write meets the
DfE’s requirements for a good quality phonics programme. If you are facing a choice
between the different programmes available, we suggest that you consider whether
any other programme is happy to reproduce the entire verbatim content of a report
on their website.
http://www.sounds-write.co.uk/docs/dfe_ ... _write.pdf

Any other trainers in the match-funding catalogue willing to make their reports public?

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Post by chew8 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:54 pm

Very good!
Gordon Askew wrote:The training strongly and consistently promoted systematic synthetic phonics as the prime approach to decoding print.
Is Sounds~Write happy to be regarded as promoting ‘synthetic phonics’?
Askew wrote:Blending was strongly and properly linked to the accurate annunciation of phonemes.
Oops – pity about the spelling mistake!

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Post by kenm » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:10 pm

There was one place where I thought the evaluation got it wrong:
For example: ‘c’ and ‘k’, and similarly ‘w’ and ‘wh’, are listed in a way that
might make them appear to be separate phonemes, rather than alternative graphemes for the same phoneme;
For many Scots (I suspect the large majority) and for a substantial fraction of the English, 'w' and "wh' do represent different phonemes.

When Gracie Fields was learning singing, she entered in a singing competition (I believe the local music festival) with a song called, "What are the wild waves saying". Her pronunciation of "What" was much criticised by her singing teacher* without much improvement resulting. Finally she was told to sing, "Fwot are the wild waves saying", followed that advice, and won first place.

* Who knew, of course, that adjudicators like to hear the words clearly.
"... the innovator has as enemies all those who have done well under the old regime, and only lukewarm allies among those who may do well under the new." Niccolo Macchiavelli, "The Prince", Chapter 6

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Post by john walker » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:00 pm

Oops – pity about the spelling mistake!
That was no spelling mistake, Jenny!
Watching Derrie deliver the course, he could have been thinking of nothing else but divine conception.
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Post by Derrie Clark » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:18 pm

Where's the bashful smilie?

I remember a Reception Teacher saying to me once that she didn't have to be all singing and dancing as the programme (S-W) does all the work for her. This is true too when training teachers - the programme does do all the work.

It was though just so brilliant meeting someone in this Inspector's position who knew his stuff.

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Post by Debbie Hepplewhite » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:34 pm

Well done, Derrie, and Sounds~Write! :grin:

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Post by chew8 » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:51 am

John wrote:Any other trainers in the match-funding catalogue willing to make their reports public?
Have others had this kind of drop-in visit yet?

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Post by Derrie Clark » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:10 am

Many thanks Debbie.

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Post by volunteer » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:05 pm

It would be great if we could see other such reports as and when. Thanks for posting.

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Post by Susan Godsland » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:29 pm

I think that Debbie should be very pleased with this report:

An evaluation by the Department for Education (England)
of Debbie Hepplewhite’s Synthetic Phonics Training one-day event for the
Oxford Reading Tree Floppy’s Phonics Sounds and Letters programme

http://www.phonicsinternational.com/DfE ... ining2.pdf

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Post by geraldinecarter » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:02 pm

Congratulations, Debbie. And what a well written and clear report. I hope it will be passed to Michael Wilshaw et al so that Ofsted can begin to understand the kind of precise detail that is needed in their reports in respect of early learning to read.

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Post by Susan Godsland » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:31 pm

There's a copy of an inspection report for a RWI training on their website:

''This is outstanding training and fully meets all the agreed criteria''.

http://www.ruthmiskintraining.com/teach ... index.html

Note the comment on how 'tricky' words are to be tackled:

''The training fully explains and demonstrates how the
necessary range of high-frequency words are gradually
introduced through the context of the storybooks, with
support given for those few of these words that cannot
yet be decoded at the child’s currently level. After
identifying known sounds, help is given to decode the
trick part of the word (the ‘grotty grapheme) so that
children can then read the word
''

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Post by maizie » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:25 pm

Susan Godsland wrote:Note the comment on how 'tricky' words are to be tackled:

''The training fully explains and demonstrates how the
necessary range of high-frequency words are gradually
introduced through the context of the storybooks, with
support given for those few of these words that cannot
yet be decoded at the child’s currently level. After
identifying known sounds, help is given to decode the
trick part of the word (the ‘grotty grapheme) so that
children can then read the word''
Why then, does Ruth say, on the Oxford Owls DVD, that these words should be taught with flashcards?

http://www.oxfordowl.co.uk/Question/Index/3

Ruth's video Tip no.6

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Post by chew8 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:55 pm

I’ve asked Ruth about this. She points out that this website is for parents – she couldn’t go into detail about words which were ‘red’ or ‘red for a while’. The actual teaching would have happened at school and if teachers were following the RWI handbook and training they should have used the ‘grotty grapheme’ approach where appropriate. What parents do at home just provides children with extra practice at reading the words.

It occurs to me that this might fit in with what she says in Tip 7 - children should re-read in order to recognise words more quickly and build up fluency.

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Post by maizie » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:56 am

chew8 wrote: She points out that this website is for parents – she couldn’t go into detail about words which were ‘red’ or ‘red for a while’.
Well, when parents quote it at me on mumsnet as 'approval' for whole word learning I find it impossible to deny or defend. It's very embarrassing.

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