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EducatioNation website

Post by Susan Godsland » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:52 am

I've just found Prof. Martin Kosloff's (http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/home.html) re-designed EducatioNation website

He's that rare beast, a Professor of Education who doesn't pull any punches where whole language is concerned :grin:

http://educationation.org/index.html

The links on these two pages are recommended:

http://educationation.org/public-educat ... folly.html

http://educationation.org/research.html

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Post by JIM CURRAN » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:50 pm

Thanks Susan. I look forward to some really interesting holiday reading.

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Post by g.carter » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:02 am

Thanks, too. A lot of good meaty stuff. Some areas of disagreement but these are few given the overall merit of his conclusions. There was one part of the following statement that I grappled with
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Students who can’t read can’t learn math, science, civics, and history, either. They can’t think logically. When uneducated students become uneducated adults, they can’t make informed and smart political and moral judgments and decisions. They are swayed by public opinion, clever politicians, and media personalities who offer utopian fantasies, bread, and circuses.

I don't think that you have to be literate to make 'smart moral judgments'?

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Post by yvonne meyer » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:06 am

they can’t make informed and smart political and moral judgments and decisions. They are swayed by public opinion, clever politicians, and media personalities
I took Kosloff's point to be that a person has to be literate in order to fully understand complex political and social issues. While everyone has a 'gut' understanding of good/bad, black/white, when "clever politicians, and media personalities" spin compex information, (eg climate change) it takes a great deal of reading and understanding to work out the shades of gray.

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Post by g.carter » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:34 am

The majority of people can read the mass of scientific evidence re global warming and then read the findings of that small percentage of scientists who deny this evidence and then come to a conclusion. Without a scientific background it will come down to judgment, rather than scientific knowledge for the majority of people. However, I am very, very uneasy about equating moral superiority with intelligence and with literacy.

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Post by Bob Boden » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:59 pm

I have written professor Kozloff regarding the availability of the Phondot System. It is still my opinion that the failure to teaching reading to a third of the children in the US is one of the greatest national tragedies the US has every experienced.

I offer the Phondot System (http://www.phondot.com) to all English-speaking countries.

I have some indication that it may begin to be used in China.

Some interested individuals have recently sent me samples of Dr. Edwin Leigh's work with his marked letter system in the latter part of the 19th century. There are many similarities to my work.

Best regards,

Bob Boden

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