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BBC: Tests flummox trainee teachers

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:38 pm
by Susan Godsland
Tests flummox trainee teachers
Many trainee teachers are struggling to pass tests in numeracy, literacy and information technology, figures show.
The Teacher Training and Development Agency says one in five recruits has trouble with simple maths and with spelling words such as "receipt".

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:14 pm
by bwking
20% (of the upwardly aspiring, mind). That rings a bell and then some. These young people have presumably achieved the necessary O and A level 'GCSE''s in order to apply to a t. training institution, and still can't read and write and figure well enough for a teacher's job.


Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:27 pm
by Susan Godsland

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:27 pm
by Lesley Drake
Well, something doesn't add up! (Sorry!)

Yeah, right

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:46 pm
by bwking

Yes, aways add yet another layer of qualification that 'the proles' (in reality, lower middle class) can pass thanks to their acquaintance with literacy and grammar and stuff.


Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 7:38 pm
by Lesley Drake
To me, the whole point is that these tests SHOULD NOT BE NECESSARY!

If all the people wanting to enter the teaching profession already have bucket-loads of GCSEs, A levels and degrees, it should be a given that of course they are literate, numerate and know their way round a computer.

When I did my PGCE, xx years ago, no-one asked me to pass a basic skills test. There was no need. My qualifications were deemed evidence enough.

This shows how absolutely, without doubt, these exams have been dumbed down in the intervening years.

The hole in whole language has undermined everything.

PS: computers HAD been invented when I first started teaching, but only the science teachers got to play with them.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:06 pm
by Lesley Drake
Mr. Chalk

This blog is worth a look while Henry Walpole is on holiday.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:12 pm
by bwking
Well, I had to give up finally on reading all the stuff, but this guy is a seriously disillusioned, but informative, teacher (especially for we non-teachers).

Thanks Les.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:24 pm
by Lesley Drake
You're welcome, Brian.

He is a SECONDARY teacher, remember.

They inherit all the disillusioned children who haven't learned how to read and write properly in Primary.

A lot of the cynicism, in some cases, is just a protection mechanism. Under the surface it hurts too much.

In others they're just hard-bitten b******s!

Now, am I talking about the children, or the adults here...Maizie???!!!

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:16 am
by john walker
It's a pity when so much is being written about literacy that, in the posting for Mr Chalk entitled 'More Bullying', there is a miss-spelling of 'persistent' and there is a semi-colon after Cherelle, when there should be a comma!
<Last year a parent complained that I was not doing enough to stop the persistant bullying of her daughter, Cherelle; who was being bullied by her friends Chevaunne and Collette>
Would Mr Chalk pass the said literacy test??

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:46 pm
by bwking

By way of some exoneration of Mr.Chalk, he is a MATHS teacher.

He has, in any case (TES this week), chucked up his blog in terminal despair - so there won't be any more spelling or punctuation from him to pick up in the foreseeable future.


Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:01 pm
by g.carter
.... And Mr. Chalk probably went to school in the late 60s or the 1970s when teaching of punctuation was considered to be a heineous crime - rather similar to today's Educratic attitude to synthetic phonics.

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:46 pm
by bwking
I was going to say that, Geraldine, and about spelling too, but I forgot (the old short-term memory is getting to be a serious pro

B. :wink:

Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:54 pm
by Lesley Drake

Don't worry, Brian, you're in good comp

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:53 am
by FEtutor
any one for ten