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by john walker
Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:07 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: LondonCentreforPedagogy blog: phonics in new NC
Replies: 11
Views: 2451

Re: LondonCentreforPedagogy blog: phonics in new NC

When prominent Education 'Perfessors' make statements like this I never know if they are coming from a place of ignorance or of malice. My guess is that it's ignorance, Yvonne :cry: . Many of these people have no idea at all what it's like to teach children who have made a much slower start that ot...
by john walker
Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:02 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Why Jaydon Can’t Read videos
Replies: 2
Views: 1152

Re: Why Jaydon Can’t Read

Yes, thanks Yvonne. :smile: For me, a number of things in the first talk stood out. Buckingham suggests five key elements in learning to read: phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, vocabulary and comprehension. She goes on to say that "It’s difficult to state it any more clearly, phonics is one of f...
by john walker
Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:38 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

Yes, Maizie. You are right! I was going to reply but your wise intervention saved me wasting further time.
A heartfelt thank you. :smile:
by john walker
Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:13 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

toots said: It is not simply a case of English having more grapheme phoneme correspondences to learn, although that is true. It is also the case that some graphemes can represent more than one phoneme (in English) and some phonemes can be represented by more than one grapheme. This means that applyi...
by john walker
Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:24 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

There are more possible grapheme phoneme correspondences in English than in some phonetically simpler languages aren't there? So there is more to learn than in some languages. Correct me if I am wrong please because I have not researched this. A hell of a lot more, Volunteer! Take Spanish, for exam...
by john walker
Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:16 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Sue Cowley blog: Cause for Concern
Replies: 15
Views: 5113

Re: Sue Cowley blog: Cause for Concern

And they ALL seem to be saying that some children should not be taught phonics if it doesn't suit them in some way or if they struggle with phonics they must need 'something else' (but it's the SAME alphabetic code they need to know for their lifelong reading and spelling skills). :lol: And that's ...
by john walker
Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:57 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

It says it all, doesn't it, Maizie?
by john walker
Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:04 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: 'Old Andrew' blogs: Phonics Denialism and Rational Debate
Replies: 73
Views: 12977

Re: 'Old Andrew' blogs: Phonics Denialism and Rational Debate

If there is one thing of which Stanovich humbly reminds us, it is that 'psychology is a "gradual synthesis" science, not a "sudden breakthrough" science and that ' n psychology and the psychology of reading we make progress by accumulating evidence from a host of interlocking studies, each of which ...
by john walker
Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:44 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

Hi Jenny, You could say that teaching child who is just embarking on learning German formally in school how to read each sound-spelling correspondence in the words she was learning was just such a 'foray'. The huge advantage here is that so many German words already correspond pretty closely to thei...
by john walker
Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:20 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

Of course, Jenny, you're quite right to say that it's surely more normal to learn meanings as one learns to read the words. This is the issue at stake when we're talking about comprehension in the way that Davis, Rosen et al mean. However, their perspective on this is a huge red herring, in my opini...
by john walker
Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:45 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

Toots said: What does this extra time and care consist of? There are certain problems in English orthography which will not be solved by extra emphasis on phonics for longer. It's not a case of there being more to learn than in shallow orthographies but a case of there being some aspects that cannot...
by john walker
Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:50 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

Well, I have to say that I taught my youngest daughter how to read in German before she knew what the words meant. This was in her first year of grammar school and she'd only just begun the subject. Of course the pron. became more and more important as she continued to study - right up to GCSE, whic...
by john walker
Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:28 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper
Replies: 171
Views: 28864

Re: Outstanding overview addresses nonsense in Davis's paper

I'd just like to endorse what Debbie and others have already said about Susan's most excellent work. Indefatigable is the word that most readily springs to mind. Susan has created what sometimes seems like my own personal Flipboard for Phonics. Thank you again, Susan, for all your wonderful work. Th...
by john walker
Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:24 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: The Future of Phonics in Education and Learning
Replies: 9
Views: 2310

Re: The Future of Phonics in Education and Learning

Jenny, There's no doubt in my mind that the work they are doing to help some of these very angry and disaffected youngsters is marvellous. However, it's a bit of a curate's egg! What they need to add to their already considerable talents is a good phonics programme. In that department, it was obviou...