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by chew8
Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:26 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 2460

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

Sorry this is long - I've spent a lot of time analysing misspellings over the past few days and trying to think about them in relation to alphabetic code charts. Re. alphabetic code charts: the issue, for me, is not just whether teachers find them useful, but whether they contribute to accurate spel...
by chew8
Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:42 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 2460

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

My views are based on what I’ve actually seen by systematically testing the spelling of over 6,000 16-year-olds who had been through primary school before even the phonics of the National Literacy Strategy was introduced – i.e. at a time when look-and-say and whole language were predominant. What go...
by chew8
Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:50 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 2460

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

What I was trying to do in my last post was to get to grips with the issue maizie had raised about regularity. Diane McGuinness’s way of organising the alphabetic code from sound to print, together with her decision to regard only the most common spelling of a phoneme as ‘regular’, leaves us having ...
by chew8
Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:00 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 2460

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

Maisie makes the point that there is no real consensus about what is an ‘irregular’ or ‘exception’ word. I think this is understandable. How one defines ‘regular’ is one thing that can make a difference, and another is whether one is considering the question from a reading or spelling perspective. D...
by chew8
Mon May 30, 2016 9:32 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 2460

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

I can only go on what I see in my voluntary work – that has been with 80-odd Y3 children and 30 Y1s this year. By and large, I think these children have received the kind of teaching which is now fairly typical – there’s much more emphasis on sounding-out-and-blending, but ‘sight’-words and guessing...
by chew8
Mon May 30, 2016 9:05 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: NZ study finds no advantage in learning to read from age 5
Replies: 9
Views: 5152

Re: NZ study finds no advantage in learning to read from age 5

I think that nurseries and schools can go some way towards making up for a lack of home input, but I don't think they can ever do the whole job.

Jenny C.
by chew8
Thu May 12, 2016 7:45 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1963

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Well, he had that message from at least two of us, then. He and others should also realise that 'unscaffolded' blending isn't optional - it's necessary when children encounter visually unfamiliar words and have no one on hand to tell them what the words are. In the early stages of learning to read, ...
by chew8
Tue May 10, 2016 8:56 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1963

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Something in the paper which Greg Brooks produced in connection with the March 2003 DfE seminar may be relevant to his 'abomination' comment: http://dera.ioe.ac.uk/4938/5/nls_phonics0303gbrooks.pdf See section 2.4.5 on pages 17-18. Brooks realised that there was a difference between the NLS ‘scaffol...
by chew8
Mon May 09, 2016 6:52 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1963

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Thanks, Joan - again very interesting. especially as Greg Brooks has been under discussion on another thread only today - see most recent posts on http://www.rrf.org.uk/messageforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6272 I have variously agreed and disagreed with him on things in the past. I disagree with him abo...
by chew8
Mon May 09, 2016 5:06 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Can the English Nat Curric be interpreted as supporting AP?
Replies: 11
Views: 3366

Re: Can the English Nat Curric be interpreted as supporting AP?

I was thinking along similar lines to maizie over the weekend and had already drafted some of the following. I don’t think many teachers would have read the 2003 ‘Sound sense...’ paper by Greg Brooks, but what I think probably happened was that it influenced official thinking for some time after tha...
by chew8
Sat May 07, 2016 10:45 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 3938

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

Some of the media reports focus on the aspects of the study that reflect well on the teaching in question and some focus on the aspects that reflect less well – both those aspects are there in the study itself, but people won’t know that unless they read it, which is partly why I recommended that fo...
by chew8
Thu May 05, 2016 9:44 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 3938

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I think the study itself attributes the results to synthetic phonics, so media reports are accurate in that respect. What I think has probably happened, at least with CLLD, is something like this: The remit of CLLD was to help teachers to implement the recommendations of the Rose review. Jim Rose ha...
by chew8
Thu May 05, 2016 3:52 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 3938

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

As I’ve said, the Machin et al. study looked at short- and long-term outcomes of the Early Reading Development Pilot and the Communication, Language and Literacy Development programme. My own view is that neither promoted genuine synthetic phonics, but checking up on the details is not easy so many ...
by chew8
Tue May 03, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: "Teaching to Teach" Literacy
Replies: 2
Views: 1151

Re: "Teaching to Teach" Literacy

This has already been the subject of discussion on another thread, Jim: 'Research supports use of s.p. for initial teaching of reading'.

Jenny C.
by chew8
Tue May 03, 2016 7:10 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 3938

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I strongly recommend that people read the study itself rather than relying on second-hand reports: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp1425.pdf A lot depends on whether one regards the Early Reading Development Pilot (ERDP) and the Communication, Language and Literacy (CLLD) programme as genuine sy...