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by chew8
Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:00 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 1875

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

Maisie makes the point that there is no real consensus about what is an ‘irregular’ or ‘exception’ word. I think this is understandable. How one defines ‘regular’ is one thing that can make a difference, and another is whether one is considering the question from a reading or spelling perspective. D...
by chew8
Mon May 30, 2016 9:32 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.
Replies: 9
Views: 1875

Re: Learning 'exception words' as wholes.

I can only go on what I see in my voluntary work – that has been with 80-odd Y3 children and 30 Y1s this year. By and large, I think these children have received the kind of teaching which is now fairly typical – there’s much more emphasis on sounding-out-and-blending, but ‘sight’-words and guessing...
by chew8
Mon May 30, 2016 9:05 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: NZ study finds no advantage in learning to read from age 5
Replies: 9
Views: 4205

Re: NZ study finds no advantage in learning to read from age 5

I think that nurseries and schools can go some way towards making up for a lack of home input, but I don't think they can ever do the whole job.

Jenny C.
by chew8
Thu May 12, 2016 7:45 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1496

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Well, he had that message from at least two of us, then. He and others should also realise that 'unscaffolded' blending isn't optional - it's necessary when children encounter visually unfamiliar words and have no one on hand to tell them what the words are. In the early stages of learning to read, ...
by chew8
Tue May 10, 2016 8:56 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1496

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Something in the paper which Greg Brooks produced in connection with the March 2003 DfE seminar may be relevant to his 'abomination' comment: http://dera.ioe.ac.uk/4938/5/nls_phonics0303gbrooks.pdf See section 2.4.5 on pages 17-18. Brooks realised that there was a difference between the NLS ‘scaffol...
by chew8
Mon May 09, 2016 6:52 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian
Replies: 6
Views: 1496

Re: Greg Brooks letter to Guardian

Thanks, Joan - again very interesting. especially as Greg Brooks has been under discussion on another thread only today - see most recent posts on http://www.rrf.org.uk/messageforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6272 I have variously agreed and disagreed with him on things in the past. I disagree with him abo...
by chew8
Mon May 09, 2016 5:06 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Can the English Nat Curric be interpreted as supporting AP?
Replies: 11
Views: 2341

Re: Can the English Nat Curric be interpreted as supporting AP?

I was thinking along similar lines to maizie over the weekend and had already drafted some of the following. I don’t think many teachers would have read the 2003 ‘Sound sense...’ paper by Greg Brooks, but what I think probably happened was that it influenced official thinking for some time after tha...
by chew8
Sat May 07, 2016 10:45 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

Some of the media reports focus on the aspects of the study that reflect well on the teaching in question and some focus on the aspects that reflect less well – both those aspects are there in the study itself, but people won’t know that unless they read it, which is partly why I recommended that fo...
by chew8
Thu May 05, 2016 9:44 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I think the study itself attributes the results to synthetic phonics, so media reports are accurate in that respect. What I think has probably happened, at least with CLLD, is something like this: The remit of CLLD was to help teachers to implement the recommendations of the Rose review. Jim Rose ha...
by chew8
Thu May 05, 2016 3:52 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

As I’ve said, the Machin et al. study looked at short- and long-term outcomes of the Early Reading Development Pilot and the Communication, Language and Literacy Development programme. My own view is that neither promoted genuine synthetic phonics, but checking up on the details is not easy so many ...
by chew8
Tue May 03, 2016 7:13 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: "Teaching to Teach" Literacy
Replies: 2
Views: 924

Re: "Teaching to Teach" Literacy

This has already been the subject of discussion on another thread, Jim: 'Research supports use of s.p. for initial teaching of reading'.

Jenny C.
by chew8
Tue May 03, 2016 7:10 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I strongly recommend that people read the study itself rather than relying on second-hand reports: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp1425.pdf A lot depends on whether one regards the Early Reading Development Pilot (ERDP) and the Communication, Language and Literacy (CLLD) programme as genuine sy...
by chew8
Mon May 02, 2016 11:26 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I’ve now read the whole of the study by Machin et al. (http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp1425.pdf) and think there are problems with it from our point of view. The approach they regard as ‘synthetic phonics’ actually fell far short of genuine s.p. – it was the approach embodied first in the Early...
by chew8
Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:44 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

I remembered that I'd written something about the Early Reading Development Pilot. Here it is:

http://www.rrf.org.uk/archive.php?n_ID= ... eNumber=58

Jenny C.
by chew8
Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:45 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading
Replies: 13
Views: 2582

Re: Research supports use of SP for initial teaching of reading

Thanks for this, Joan - very interesting. I've found this, which has much more detail: http://cep.lse.ac.uk/pubs/download/dp1425.pdf I've done no more than read quickly through about half of it. What I've seen so far is disappointing: the phonics teaching under discussion is the rather feeble and no...