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by chew8
Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:06 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Jim Rose's comments on teaching to the test:
Replies: 23
Views: 2802

I understand what Gerry and Dick are saying about standardised tests, but I still have a problem with the very hard line that Dick takes. On current standardised reading and spelling tests, the scores in synthetic phonics schools DO basically ‘pile up at the top’ – I just cannot see that Dick is rig...
by chew8
Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:12 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Handing the technical stuff off to ITORF
Replies: 11
Views: 1346

Thanks Roger. I read a fair amount of research and realise that some of it is beyond me, though I always try to get my head round it as well as I can. Reading articles by Johnston and Watson is usually a great relief as they write in a way which is easy for non-researchers to understand. If research...
by chew8
Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:16 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Handing the technical stuff off to ITORF
Replies: 11
Views: 1346

As Dick knows he and I had quite a lot of correspondence on another board and private correspondence before he joined in the RRF discussion, but I am still puzzled by some of his pronouncements. For example he writes ‘ But look at the methodology. Clack reports only an average, with not a speck of i...
by chew8
Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:25 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Newsletter 56 Now Available
Replies: 22
Views: 3230

At the very beginning, they DID test vocab., using a test (the British Picture Vocab. Scale) that is widely regarded as a reasonable proxy for IQ. The children who did the synthetic phonics programme first had an average BPVS standard score of 95.2, which is significantly below the population averag...
by chew8
Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:20 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Newsletter 56 Now Available
Replies: 22
Views: 3230

Yes inded, Ken. The thing which is really infuriating is that these critics talk as though they have results showing that comparable children taught their way definitely perform better on the same comprehension tests, whereas they actually have no such evidence - they haven't administered the tests ...
by chew8
Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:10 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Reading Reflex
Replies: 9
Views: 1473

I don't see Rayner's eye-movement studies as refuting Ehri's and Bob's theories, Dick. Surely Ehri and Bob are saying, with Rayner, that proficient readers process all letters in all words but do it so quickly and efficently that they look as though they are recognising the words as 'sight-words'. I...
by chew8
Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:03 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Newsletter 56 Now Available
Replies: 22
Views: 3230

Dick, I think you may need to accept that a lot of what you say about tests is mystifying to UK synthetic phonics people. It would be only for the first few months of instruction that such people might see the point of tests demonstrating that children have learnt what they have been taught in a par...
by chew8
Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:11 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Reading Reflex
Replies: 9
Views: 1473

Linnea Ehri makes the same sort of distinction that you make, Bob - processing written words as combinations of graphic lines versus processing them as sequences of letters representing sounds. It's a good distinction. I myself find that even when words contain unexpected letters (e.g. 'yacht', 'aun...
by chew8
Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:00 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Jim Rose's comments on teaching to the test:
Replies: 23
Views: 2802

Dick: The situation in the UK is that people who have been worried about reading standards for years have found that standardised tests work perfectly well provided that they expect their pupils to be a year or more above age-norms by the end of reception. We need this kind of measurement as evidenc...
by chew8
Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:15 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Mona
Replies: 7
Views: 1358

I suggested some time ago, in the context of the time-scale Jim Rose was working to, that he could look at what reception children in NLS and synthetic phonics schools were achieving even by the end of their first term (i.e. by Dec. 2005). Perhaps this is what he did - we know that he visited school...
by chew8
Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:43 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Dyslexia: A problem of sound, not sight
Replies: 3
Views: 1695

The following may be significant: 'Children need to identify certain sounds that go with spoken words, because they will make it easier for them to learn how to pronounce letters, according to Mark Seidenberg, the study's co-author and a UWM psychology professor. That strikes me as typical of the Am...
by chew8
Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:22 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Forward Planning...ideas please!
Replies: 16
Views: 2829

No, it seems that they haven't put it out to tender - I don't know why, as that would have been the obvious thing to do. What I have heard, though, is that the government is very serious about getting it right this time. Let's hope that this bodes well.
by chew8
Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:05 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Forward Planning...ideas please!
Replies: 16
Views: 2829

I have heard today, from a very reliable source, that Jim Rose (ex-HMI) will be doing the research recommended by the Select Committee - it's likely to be in the news tomorrow. My source thinks he'll be OK and will listen to the right people. I have also heard from a reliable source that the fact th...
by chew8
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:57 pm
Forum: General Forum
Topic: Forward Planning...ideas please!
Replies: 16
Views: 2829

I actually think that Brian's idea of car stickers is not at all bad! What do others think? Could we cope with the rush? We probably could if we had a simple 2-sides-of-A4 downloadable guide for parents.

Jenny.
by chew8
Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:50 am
Forum: General Forum
Topic: The South African connection
Replies: 6
Views: 1380

Well, well, well! The picture seems to be quite a coherent one.

Jenny.